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= = Why is it important to balance personal, short-term benefits and society's long term welfare? Note To Victoria: Victoria Lin....YOU JUST DELETED EVERYONE'S ANSWER!!! AT LEAST THEY'RE STILL IN THE HISTORY TABS! I'll even re-post then because I'm nice. My proof? [|Check the history tabs.] toc

= Alexandre = Let's have an example, not relating to VBP for a awhile. Ms. Bugenske helped me out on this a bit. So, this is true. I leave my computer on standby overnight. To my personal short-term benefit, when I wake up or something and go downstairs, I have quick access to the computer and internet. I don't have to wait like 5 minutes for the computer to start up. But for society's long term welfare, it's pretty bad. I'm using up power, and that uses up fossil fuel. It's a waste of energy. Yeah.... Now back to the VBP. Let's say, I love using hand sanitizer. It's cool, and it dries up quickly. And it makes my hand cleaner! Yay! But, on the downside, it erases lots of bacteria from the surface of my hand, leaving stronger, more resistant viruses on my hand to reproduce, making new bacterias that are resistant to hand sanitizer. Of course, hand sanitizer is a short-term benefit, because sooner or later my hands will become more dirty, and then I may use it again, and again, and again. This process will exterminate the weak, and leave out the strong to reproduce, increasing resistance.
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This is hand sanitizer. Only use it when necessary! Like after petting a street dog. PS: HAHAHA! I'm first! = = =Iraj= Its important because sometimes we are careless of what we are doing. You might think that your doing the right thing but once you know how it affects the society you feel really guilty. I also agree with harry about alexandre's example for the computer. When you drink water from the cups like the ones at school and throw them away its a waste. Even though Im mad because of thirst today, im also mad because I didn't bring a water bottle. Short term is Thorwing and wasting cups. The long term is that we are killing trees.

=Evelyn= When I get sick, it's because the virues are reproducing in my cells. The newborn viruses break out of the cell. But not all viruses harm the cell. [|Click here to see how viruses reproduce]. It's good for the viruses, but bad for me because I'm sick! However if I don't get sick, then the bacteria will have nowhere to reproduce. When I get sick, I eat medichine, that helps me because i am no longer infected with that diease. However the viruses in body that were infecting me are now dead. Another example is if bacteria in food werent doing thier job. then alot of food would taste different. For example scine their is bacteria in yogurt, if the bacteria weren't doing their jobs. Then yougurt would taste alot different!

PS: I'm second!

Megan: I knoe I'm not in ur class, but ur third actually. Alexandre: Megan, I thought Ms. Bugenske asked us to not use abbreviations like those noobs. Good job, Evelyn. I agree. I think Iraj cut. Meanie bobinie slowinee! Back To Top

=Katherine :D= Well, I'll first give an example that is not so related to VBP at the beginning, but you'll get to it (: First, people owns cars and motorbikes and such because they don't want to go on to crowded local buses or doesn't want to walk to the train station. So we started buying more and more cars, and the waste gas that is coming out of the cars pollutes the air. That's just like our short term benefits, buying our own cars and not taking local transportation that's provided. And the long term damage is air pollution, global warming and such. Breathing in bad air is bad for us, it might make us sick or weak. At the time bacteria might suddenly have a chance to reproduce inside us and we started to get even sicker. That's why now we should either ride bikes or walk :D Or use transportation that is provided . Image: '[|2009 - 55/365 - Diminuer La Pollution...]' www.flickr.com/photos/84641606@N00/3306868561

Notice that the signs on the pole says no waste gas ? (Megan: Where? You mean in Chinese? Back To Top

=Harry=

I really liked Alexandre's computer model with both benefits in mind! Our primary society need is trying not to breed resistant bacteria, while still trying to keep us as healthy as possible. I was shocked to find that even my mouthwash contained Anti-bacterial chemicals! I mean come on! We don't need that! Normal mouth wash is acceptable! This is a good case of how we can breed new resistant bacteria! Its not worth that minty fresh feel! Heres the bottle I use ... Clearly says anti-septic! Megan: Where can you get normal mouthwash? I don't know any brand without antiseptics in them. [|http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MasLq8lHoes/RiD7lyhnIeI/AAAAAAAAAac/-opYjb6f0CU/s400/listerine2.jpg]

Bryant: Well, I actually use the same mouthwash as you do. I didn't even know it was anti-septic. Well I think it is better to use normal ones without anti-bacterial things in it. But I don't think they exist. =Victoria=

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Evelyn: What's with the smileys...... Megan: HELP

=Sofia=

= = Why is it important to balance personal, short-term benefits and society's long term welfare?

Because of things like not taking the full course of antibiotics. We need to take antibiotics for our personal health when we are ill. This allows us to be better in the short term. In order to look after society's long term welfare we must complete our personal course of antibiotics. If you feel better earlier then don't stop taking your antibiotics, this enables bacteria to get more immune to it and be harder to treat in the future. Also as said earlier don't use hand sanitizers or even mouthwash all the time, only when you really need it like when there is no soap. This will limit the exposure of bacteria to antibacterial agents so that they don't develop resistance. Image what just one resistant bacteria can do. Megan: You copies my MRSA...jk. Anyways, does toothpaste have antibacterial stuff in it? Another reason why not to eat your toothpaste... [|http://www.washtwpmorris.org/departments/health/mrsa/jama.jpg] Back to Top

=Patrick= It is important to balance your short term benefits and society’s long term welfare. I like Victoria’s example of getting sick. When you are infected with a disease, the first thing you want is to become better and not necessarily eliminate the illness. That is a short term benefit. If you only focus on that, there is still a possibility that the disease will spread and potentially harm the society. Taking special medicine (like the one in my picture) to get rid of the illness and preventing it from spreading is a good way to keep your short term benefits balanced with the society’s long term welfare.

Megan: That looks more like vitamin E capsules than antibiotics to me...

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Helen
People are getting too selfish and they only think of their own needs, and they forget about the world’s needs, so lots of problems are occurring. Well, lots of people are lazy. So when they are outside or in a car/bus they will have nowhere to throw their trash away or SPIT. So they will just spit/throw their trash on the ground instead of in a trashcan. This makes roads and lots of places dirty and filthy, which doesn't do the world any good. First of all, the spit evaporates, then the bacterium gets into the air and other people breathe that in. The trash pollutes the city, making people weak so it’s easier for VBP to be transferred. Megan: This is why sometimes puritanical laws like those against spitting can be good... [] Back to Top

=Timothy=

I think it is important because you might not even know you are affecting the world. For example, on a hot sunny day, you couldn’t stand the heat and you turn on the air conditioner. You might think,” Oh, it’s just one air conditioner; it wouldn’t affect the world that much. What if everyone in the world turned on their A.C.? It wouldn’t be so good. Where are all those gases from the A.C. going to go? Why, the atmosphere of course! Then, when sunlight shines into earth, the reflected sunlight would be blocked by carbon dioxide and remains in our atmosphere. This is how global warming occurs. A.C. could send polar bears to their doom, and it would waste tons of electricity. The picture below shows a polar bear cub. Global warming would kill them. People would have to cut trees, global warming will get worst and worst. Eventually everyone will get infected. It’s like saying everyone is using anti-biotic. Eventually the bacteria would grow immune to them, and soon it would affect everyone around the world!

I like how Alexandre wrote that anti-bacterial agents shouldn't be used unless its really needed. I also like what Harry said about mouth washes. They kill germs and bacteria, and we just do that to get a minty fresh breath. If you only want minty fresh breath, just eat a mint ~

[] Do you really want to kill these animals and send them to their extinction?

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=Will=

My answer is slightly related to Timothy's, but also completly different. I'm going to talk about fish.=]. Every one loves that good, tasty fish and chips, right??? Well until a while back, commercial fishermen would go out into the sea and just take as many fish as they pleased, and wouldn't give anything back to the sea. Tens of thousands of fish were bieng pulled out of the ocean everyday. But then, someone thought; hey! in ten years, aren't there going to be less fish in the sea? What if they become extinct? Laws were passed. For example, in Washington,they have reduced the amounts of Salmon you can catch from 4 to 2 fishes ( both need to be adult). Also, every fish needs to be an adult and children need to be released. Fish older then 8 months need to measured and if they don't fit regulations, they must be set back. Overal, now we don't have as many fish in the markets, and prices might have gone up, but at least now we don't have to worry about all these beautiful animals bieng extinct in ten years. Plus, now we can let our grandchildren, and their grandchildren experience these same animals that we got to enjoy.

India
Everyone has short term needs. For example, you need to get to school. You can take your car, or your bus. It desnt occur to you that using the bus is attually a way of saving energy. Everyday when you take he bus in the mornings, you are balencing your short-term needs with societys. But haow about if you wanted your room to be warm when you get back? So you leave the under-floor hearing on ALL day and come back to a nice warmcomfy room. WRONG. You have just wasted a LOT of energy on a trival short-term need. This is why its important to balence these two, becuase lots of short term needs, eventually impact society. There are lots of examples of this. AC, leaving elceticity on, and it all leads to things like global warming, and polluting the atmoosphere. People should think before they act.

one way to balence your short term need is re-cycling: Helen: I agree, spitting is aboslulty discusting. Its also revolts the people around them. In england they have anti-spitting laws. They should have that here. Back To Top =Bryant= Everyone have their own needs. Like what Timothy said about A.Cs. People simply want to feel better for a while, not really caring or knowing that it is causing the world to get worse. I heard on the Hong Kong radio once. It said that every round a racing car goes, the world gets worse. A lot of people like to watch the racing cars go //whoosh// in front of their face. They think it is really exciting and fun. But the thing that they don't know, is that every round the racing cars go, it makes the world worse. The watching is a short term benefit for the viewers but they don't know that this is bad for the world's long time welfare. And some people get sick and they don't want to see the doctor and get some medication because they think it is a small sickness. But even if it is a small, simple sickness, it is still contagious. He could infect other people without knowing. Then it keeps on spreading until soneone gets to a doctor and get the medication. [|Back to top]

Chalrie There is so much kind of examples of short term benefits and don't care about the world. Everybody know that everyone is selfish, even the animal. So you can be a bit loose for yourself, but you have to know that every bit of energy you use, the lesser the Earth will live. like what others said above, when Earth live lesser, the more animal will extinct. Eventually, human will also extinct. It is not just a while like one year and one species will extinct, but it is like a long time. Like the car pollution started when the cars were invented. So it had been a long time. I not exactly saying that you can be very loose to yourself infront but I mean you don't have to worry everyday that polar bears will extinct. But you have to do your best to conserve energy, in order to help Earth. And like the others have said, other than conserving, not using too much antibacteria agents are good too. it not only help yourself but also help everyone on Earth to stop more fatal VBP to appear. remenber to conserve energy [] rmember not to use this [] Megan: Unless you need to back to top

=James= Why is it important to balance personal, short-term benefits and society's long term welfare?

I agree with alexandre's computer example, i mean if you leave your computer on for the whole night to maybe download some huge file, instead of waiting until the other day to turn it on. Its a much faster way but then it wastes energy. H5N1 is a disease which is spreaded by chicken's and such to people when they eat it. So people start buying less chicken because they think they might get sick, nothing wrong with that, but then this makes people lose jobs and the money that people originally got from selling chicken will decrease. Then the whole world would not be eating chicken anymore, and we all know that chicken is a huge catagory of our daily food source.So this is an example of how diseases to people's fear and then damaging the world.